DNA for tracing the trees

Slowly, but surely, we’re able to fill in some blanks in the trees using DNA.
John McCurdy Williamson and Sarah Fox had 7 children, Sarah had 4 daughters with her first husband as well, only one of which lived to adulthood and had children of her own.

Of those 8 children we have DNA results from descendants of 6 so far.
That supports the following –
Annie Adeline Lee married Anderson Strader, we have several (I’ll fill in later) confirmed descendants who have taken DNA tests.

Florence Williamson married Jasper McIlvoy, and we have quite a few samples there as well. This includes, 1 person who did not know here mother, was rasied by her father, but I was able to identify a family for, and palce her on the tree, and 1 who we know is a cousin on that line but was adopted and we have not been able to figure out who her parents were. DNA has been very helpful in these two cases.

James Harris Williamson – married Jeanette Dutcher, they had 7 children, currenlty we only have a dna kit from 1 line, James’ son Thomas’ line via his son Travis.

Amanda Williamson married Henry Hall – of their 8 children we have DNA samples from 2 lines.

Alice Williamson was married 3 times, children from 2 of them. We have 1 sample via her husband John Maddox, none yet from the Riseling daughters.

John Anderson Williamson – married twice, 1 daughter by his first wife, and 7 children by his second wife, Monie Straub. We have DNA tests from 5 people through 3 of the 7 children of Monie.
Through Clara Williamson and her husband John Strader, via their daughter Rita we have Lori Agee.
Through Violet Williamson and her husband Russ Pryor we have Cheryl Pryor VanHoose.
Through Louis Elijah Williamson “Lige” and wife Mary Pace, via their son James Anderson Louis Williamson and his first wife Pat Kinsella, there is myself and John Williamson.                                                                                                                  
Through Louis Elijah Williamson “Lige” and wife Mary Pace, via their son James Anderson Louis Williamson and his second wife Kaye Mahon we have Michelle Williamson Keck.

Elijah Harris Williamson – the youngest of Sarah and John’s children, married 3 times as well. His granddaughter Debra, via his second wife Maggie and their son Randall, recently submitted her DNA sample to give us one from that line as well.

Between all of the above autosomal DNA tests matches, and the Y-DNA testing done by John and me, you’d think we’d have a clearer picture, but not so.. we still need a paper trail to make sure things are right. We know through all of the auDNA testing that we’re connected to the McCurdy’s of Abbeville, S.C., then Lincoln County, TN, but we cannot find John M’s parents yet, just names in an old Bible, no paper trail.
The Y-DNa tells us we’re related to a Williamson line in West Virginia and Kentucky, that of Alden Williamson and to another in South Carolina, while also to a third out of Virginia, where the first two likely lead back to as well. Again, no paper trail, and no progress.

The auDNA though might be leading us to finding out who Elijah Fox (Sarah’s father) was, more and more matches on that side, and the pieces are coming together. We also have a connection through Sarah’s sister Adeline, two good matches through her daughter Ida, to Ralph Brown.

If you’re family, and you’re interested, get in touch with me. I’ll share what I have. Aunt Cheryl (Cheryl VanHoose) also has done a lot of research on these and other connections and can fill you in.

DNA connections..

I use multiple sites to share and find data.

http://dna.ancestry.com  for Autosomal DNA
http://www.gedmatch.com for Autosomal DNA
http://www.familytreedna.com for Autosomal, mtDNA and Y-DNA
http://www.yfull.com for Y-DNA interpretation
https://www.23andme.com/ also does Autosomal testing

https://www.fullgenomes.com/ for Y-DNA and full genome sequencing

 

Then there are sites that are useful as tools, as well as some softwares that help with putting all this data into something that might make sense.

 

(This is a ‘work in progress’ post, and will be updated later)

DNA & Other things

It’s been a while, so I thought I’d update a little.

Dear old John M. & Sarah had 7 children together, and Sarah had 2 surviving children from her first marriage. That’s 9 children to follow.

We have Y-DNA samples from two of John Anderson Williamson’s male descendants and auDNA samples from 4 of his descendants.
We have an auDNA sample from Amanda’s line.

We have an auDNA sample from Alice’s line.

 

I have been in touch with cousins from the following lines, and hope to eventually convince some of them (you) to test autosomal DNA with Ancestry.
2 more folks on Amanda’s line

1 from Arminta’s line

3 from Florence’s line

Several now from James H.’s line. mostly through his son Tom, but 2 now through Eugenia who married James Wray.

So, if you’re reading this, and you know you’re a cousin.. please consider testing. I recommend testing first with Ancestry.com. You can download the raw data from them and upload it for free to Gedmatch.com and also upload to ftdna.com for $39 (or free if your patient enough)
If you need help with that, get in touch with me.

So, what has DNA done for my research? So far it seems to have confirmed the McCurdy connection (see earlier posts) but still has not led to a paper trail.
It has helped me with some other lines though.

Harriett McCurdy found?

Over 15 years ago, back before the turn of the century even, I posited that our John McCurdy Williamson was the son of who we then identified as Sarahtee McCurdy, daughter of Elijah McCurdy and Ann Handy Harris. All we knew then was that Sarahtee, and her sister Rebecca, had both married Williamson men.

Over the years we could find no proof of this, but little things constantly led back to that theory. John’s middle name, McCurdy was an easy clue. John also using the names McCurdy, Harris and Elijah for his children, either first or middle names seemed a lead .

Later I discovered, after Y-DNA testing, that our line matched Williamson’s who were in Wilson County, TN and Williamson County, TN. Both are not far north of Lincoln County, where the McCurdy family had moved to before 1820. In Lincoln county on the 1830 census there is a John Williamson living right next door to Ann McCurdy (Ann has two entries on that census, the other being next door to her son Nathaniel, we’re not sure both are Ann Harris). Around that same time, Cheryl Pryor-VanHoose had scanned and sent me a page from an old family bible that listed the names of John McCurdy’s parents.. Simply, John Williamson and Harriet McCurdy.

So, I searched those southern Middle Tennessee counties looking for evidence of our man John McCurdy Williamson, and found something! John McCurdy Williamson enlisted in the US Army in 1847 for the Mexican War. He enlisted in Millersburg, Rutherford County, TN. Rutherford sits between Wilson and Williamson, and is 2 counties north of Lincoln, so right in the middle of my search area.

Still, this was not concrete proof, but put our guy in the area I expected to find him if we were correct. So now we have John M in Middle Tennessee, but I still must find his parents. Every John I can find in the area born before 1800 seems tied to other families, no McCurdy’s. Elijah and Ann’s daughters appear to be Rebecca and Sarahtee according to transcripts of Ann’s will. No Harriet listed anywhere.

Then along came Autosomal DNA, which fills in the middle blanks that Y-DNA and mtDNA don’t touch. With this testing you can find cousins, and ancestors anywhere in your tree, assuming the right dna segments are handed down along the generations.

Both Cheryl and I, on the Williamson line, have had this testing done and the results have connected both of us genetically to descendants of multiple children of Elijah McCurdy and Ann Handy Harris. We also have connections to the line of Thomas Harris, who was Ann’s brother, and to two McCurdy lines that intersect with Elijah McCurdy’s father and grandfather.

Those results seem to confirm that we are related to those lines, and the common connection is Elijah and Ann. To me this says it was one of their children who was John M’s mother, as we have long suspected.

I recently received an email from someone who had seen the Will of Ann Harris McCurdy in its handwritten format, whether this was a scan or the original I do not know, but she says it is possible that where previous transcriptionist had named one daughter Sarahtee H. C. Williamson, it is possible that the name is Harriett not Sarahtee.